Zahi Hawass, director of the Egyptian Antiquities: Antiquities rustlers sell World
of Museums
Many reasons make me think there is room blood secret
Ahmed Osman
Dr. Zahi Hawass is the first effects of Egyptian men who had gained an international reputation and has several books in English and the activities and aspirations of the private is not directly related to body effects. As he always raises controversy and debate especially about the Great Pyramid and the secrets of the builders of the pyramids. While some believed spiritual and amateur science fiction gallery of the existence of records that contains the secrets of the lost civilization of Atlantis inside the pyramid, Hawass insisted that the pyramid is 100% Egyptian industry has nothing to do other civilizations. After 15 years of work on the Giza Plateau next to Al-Ahram, which has become a beloved Hawass, secretary-general of the Egyptian monuments. «Middle East» met with Dr. Hawass in his office amid Abbasia files and queue waiting with him and had the following dialogue:
* Do you find a conflict between your personal interests and your job as an administrator for the effects?
The two complement each other, I write in or leave at night, will be issued to me in August this month «August» books in English and I have a book next year on the Fourth Dynasty «builders of the pyramids» and a children's book .. I try and service effects through my public profile.
* Took over responsibility for the impacts in a difficult time, the police revealed the presence of organized gangs The Egyptian antiquities theft and smuggling out of the country to sell. What do you believe is the cause of this problem?
The main problem that you are (responsible for the effects intended by him) do not organize your home well so no one can steal. Second, you do not need seriously to be afraid of people abroad who are stealing effects. In fact, can be a theft of the effects that you get now is a coverage «thefts of older» .. It is not theft, because people are stealing effects set in thirty years. There are gangs found out our monuments to the outside, and there was a gang involving Egyptian and American and English fans have been seized in a decade. The gang that was caught recently and includes police officers, archaeologists and citizens, they are a huge gang headed by Souissi and those caught something very important and healthy sign.
At the same time the second measure, which we have done is enable us to obtain information, when we created the Department of Antiquities and refunds We were deployed abroad, and we sent letters to every director of a museum in the world and tell them that the director of the University of buying a stolen piece of the effects will not deal with him. Indeed, we have stopped dealing Scientific us Nicholas Reeves of Britain (Reeves was responsible for the research project on the graves kings of el-Amarna in the Valley of the Kings his recent book on «Akhenaten Prophet Egypt false») for his collaboration with Schultz (the defendant in handling the effects of stolen) in America and Veldong (Director of the Museum Berlin) and his wife, they were uncovered in the case of encouraging the work of excavation by stealth in order to get the effects of non-registered and are not known and placed in a museum in Berlin without the knowledge of one. Veldong and this has in his museum is the Museum of Munich and the Louvre Museum in Paris is very important relics of the Middle Kingdom to the statues of kings stolen from the Fayoum in 1985.
* You are this way, trying to prevent museums from buying stolen antiquities, but work for the collector?
The main point now is the effects of trade wherein the largest museums of payment. The holdings were in the past is important, but now its importance few. Everyone has a special group Private Collection began afraid. All those who are buying now are buying for the museums. We have cooperated with the United States and we have information about those who steal antiquities. We started watching. We give this information to the security services, we use the law to imprison Schultz in the United States or restore the head of Amenhotep III from London. When people heard we started to recover the stolen antiquities responded. There is a lady in Switzerland has a statue stolen. Out of the store in the Temple of Karnak Gardjath. Restored more than seventy pieces at the same time we say we Nrmm Mkabrna. There are pieces of stolen, and I asked the Michael Carlos Museum in Atlanta, Georgia, the U.S. was terrifying to us a number of effects.
* Although this is still stealing from the effects in Egypt and were being smuggled into the outside?
We are now organizing our house. Police Thrsena but I have to guard that .. How can this be? We manage the name «the General Administration of guard» in the Antiquities Authority and the Director of each region is to become completely in charge of security. We remove the subject Abu rod guard and we are using the security monitors, give them £ 8 per day, and make it work just 6 hours. Qualified person. And stores as well. We started to build a warehouse Tvia twentieth the level of all Egypt. Stores on the high level can accommodate all existing effects. A restoration .. Electronic imaging there, underdevelopment (who was present) will end. After 6 or 9 months, will complete the picture, because the armed forces adopted a national task. Besides, ten people were sent on missions abroad in order to study longer qualified to do something which the country.
* How do you deal with the gangs, which holds the excavation work to capture the effects?
We started a national campaign to register the effects of Egypt for 3 years, as well as the mapping of each archaeological sites in Egypt.
* How many recorded effects?
About 60% of our monuments is registered.
* Some statements that place does not publish reports about we do not know anything about it?
Our two things: «de Inal Service» (Bulletin of the Egyptian Antiquities) all the excavations are published in English and Arabic, then we assume the prospector in the foreign publication of the report in English and Arabic for its disclosures. The first volume in Arabic will be published next week (week before last).
* When did you arrive to the point that assure the safety of the effects of Egypt?
Not less than 10 years.
* Do not you think that the time has come to become the ancient Egyptian history, a key article in the Egyptian schools?
Of course this is very important, but this is a problem of education. Our fault that we do not all work as a team, unfortunately.
* It is known that the majority of the effects of the world are in Egypt, which increases the responsibility of the body which supervises them and which employs about 30 thousand employees. What do you think is advocated by some archaeologists of the need to make the Antiquities Authority and the Ministry of specialized independent of the Ministry of Culture?
I do not want to bother myself Ministry, as minister of culture Farouk Hosni, Minister of the authorities give me .. But of course no doubt in the future when we have become a ministry of the effects of this will be a great thing.
* The secret room
Q: What about the Great Pyramid and the secret room anonymous? What is the secret of distrusting the existence of a secret room despite the failure of previous experience in the disclosure?
Door handles his first of copper, into the slot in the South found the experience at the door of a second at a distance of 21 cm behind it. Pope III and found in the northern two handles of copper, (as well as about 60 centimeters) and found that this aperture North meandering and not straight. What is the function Mqda copper? These handles are made to fill the room and closed the place, decided to work for this experiment in September or October (October), and will be concluded to climb the pyramid from the outside of the distance by which the slot. If we found the corridor is open to the outside of these doors are symbolic (ie, the absence of a secret room behind it). However, I think the doors and behind the king's burial chamber of Cheops, hidden there.
* Do you expect that after testing found the mummy of Khufu in the secret room after about 5 thousand years of burial of the king?
Is highly likely, and this is the first time where I say these words. Research expire after two years and we have been able to choose the appropriate technology to detect the secret. There are papyrus from the Middle Kingdom, known as «Cheops Papyrus and sorcerers». This papyrus with a very important point has not anyone noticed significant. When I came Cheops magician called «serious» and asked him about the secret «Thoth» god of wisdom he wanted to know the sacrament before the construction of the pyramid. The second room, which they call King room there is no evidence on their use for burial .. This room camouflage room, and I think that the burial chamber of Cheops behind the doors blocked.